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Glad to came across it. <a href="https://www.alluc.com/stream/aaron+sorkin" rel="nofollow">Aaron Sorkin</a> got what he got.sammyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00520512837398419410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-39239597225453957672012-08-26T23:09:13.153-05:002012-08-26T23:09:13.153-05:00On the sexist topic: OK, maybe a little flip on th...On the sexist topic: OK, maybe a little flip on the topic. My point was that every male writer is sexist. Sexism doesn't alway manifest itself in offensive ways. You say Sotkin's does. Fine. My point remains that lots of people like Sorkin because his writing has a voice, a non watered down voice because he doesn't write by committee. If he wrote by committee less of his Sexism , and other blind spots, would come through. But so would less of the quality arguments he sometimes makes. No one else is making any quality arguments in TV, so again, until there is some show that can debate a topic as thoroughly as Sorkins shows, I say encourage the concept of debating and striving to be right about stuff, and when they're wrong, call them on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-69765655106778143152012-08-26T22:58:57.744-05:002012-08-26T22:58:57.744-05:00Newscat: Where are the shows that speak more intel...Newscat: Where are the shows that speak more intelligently to the array of topics Sorkin attempts to tackle? Saying Breaking Bad is better than Newsroom doesn't answer the question. How many political issues has Breaking Bad tackled and made various arguments about? No one said Sorkin writes better about Politics then Breaking Bad writes about ruthlessness. The point is if you want to watch a fiction show that is going to cover a myriad of political issues and attempt to make some sense of then, what choices are there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-35297375598023143102012-08-21T01:10:24.745-05:002012-08-21T01:10:24.745-05:00The Newsroom is a goofy, haphazardly entertaining ...The Newsroom is a goofy, haphazardly entertaining mess about issues that matter to me and which I rarely see tackled on television. But, you know, it's my goofily entertaining mess about issues that matter to me and which I rarely see tackled on television.<br /><br />It's not genius. No. I'll give you that and more. I'll concede all that because I don't care if it is never great. It's tickling my funny bone enough that I don't care. <br /><br />Every minute since he tried to fight a power bar enhanced Don in the first episode, I love every minute Charlie Skinner is onscreen. <br /><br />And I love all the well refined lacerations of the crazy new far right. They are ridiculous only in their literacy and specificity, as bald face position taking is part and parcel in cable news. <br /><br />He could be doing it a hell of a lot better, but he's at least doing it and being entertaining at it. And I sure don't want him to stop trying any time soon. I want to keep cranking out all the scripts he can. <br /><br />Sometimes, be it movies or tv, he produces lightening in a bottle. Sometimes he's just entertaining as hell, but a bit all over the map. And sometimes, rarely, he's bad or biased, as everyone from Aristophanes to Shakespeare to Milch has been before him.<br /><br />Maybe he's a dick in real life, maybe not. I think no one would wish to be judged solely by a handful of internet postings w emade over things about which we were emotionally biased, namely our life's work.<br /><br />But whether he's a dick or not is irrelevant, as he would be one of the many who created something we love. All that matters is that he deigned to walk amongst us for a while and show us he was just as human as we, with his own feet of clay, no different from ours. <br /><br />And so of course we must hate him for it. <br /><br />But at least he engaged truthfully, which I prefer. And he did so directly at a time when, as you all note, no one else took you seriously, not even the press who wrote about it.<br /><br />He makes me laugh, so I keep watching. And while I know The Newsroom should be better, I still like it for what it actually is. Even the utter crap, which would be the internet stuff, is charming in it's naivete while at the same time being infuriating in it's presumptions.<br /><br />Entertaining and infuriating? Where do I sign up?<br /><br />It's not let him slide, but rather to let me slide. It's too give me the right to watch something fun and witty and articulate without feeling bad about the fact that it's reach exceeds it's grasp.<br /><br />Would I rather be watching fucking Law & Order: SUV?<br /><br />Yeah there are shows a lot better out there, but there aren't that many. And there are about zero shows out there trying to be what The Newsroom is. <br /><br />They really are not succeeding, but I am not gonna hate them for it. Rather watch him swing and miss than not come to the plate, whether with this or anything else. Because even when he strikes out, which I don't think he's ever done entirely, he sure a lot of fun to watch swing wildly. I never feel cheated by his effort.Schmokerhttp://schmokersense.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-88500456804930649092012-07-30T22:30:49.383-05:002012-07-30T22:30:49.383-05:00See my answer above for a response to "the on...See my answer above for a response to "the only game in town." Sorkin isn't even the best show on *his network,* let alone at 10 pm on Sunday nights (that would be Breaking Bad).NewsCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05049304894327723728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-24810878294863945662012-07-30T22:29:30.641-05:002012-07-30T22:29:30.641-05:00I don't reply much to this thread but I will t...I don't reply much to this thread but I will this time. There are plenty of shows much more intelligent about their subject matter than I found The West Wing or (in 2012) The Newsroom. Yes, Sorkin name-drops many subjects, then has a character give a big speech about EXACTLY what he wants the viewer to think about this topic. He often gets both little and big details wrong about this subject. But is this "intelligent?" Is this even "entertainment?" If you want a program that shows why the author feels the way he does about a subject instead of just tells the audience, I highly recommend The Wire. As for the pointless argument that "I can't help but write sexism because I was born male," that's a bullshit argument. No feminist would ever make that argument. If someone chooses to willify encode their art with messages that put women at a lesser value than men, that's not because they were "born male." There are many shows written by men (in fact most of them are written by men) and I wouldn't claim they are all by default "sexist." What Sorkin does to his female characters is make them into strange creatures that his female viewers don't recognize as believable. They lack the humanistic qualities that he can fully invest in his male characters.NewsCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05049304894327723728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-23656551911982108412012-07-30T22:27:10.292-05:002012-07-30T22:27:10.292-05:00And I'd add, being the only game in town is pa...And I'd add, being the only game in town is part of what leads to the elitism. So you want to set Sorkin straight? Make some show that's halfway decent that tackles half these issues half as thoroughly and, well, do better than all those halves or else Sorkin will be still feel pretty elite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-36590246919622249692012-07-30T22:19:18.298-05:002012-07-30T22:19:18.298-05:00In reading through all of this, I find Sorkin to b...In reading through all of this, I find Sorkin to be pretty reasonable. That is, I find none of his reactions perplexing. The whole "learn to take his lumps" advice that some here gave him I do find perplexing. It almost suggests that the writer should never engage with a critic, or a critique. Just let us call it sexist, darn you. Our opinion is beyond question, while yours is obviously suspect. Every Male writer is sexist. He just is. No male writer has ever successfully escaped the inherent limitations that come from, you know, being Male your whole life. The trouble Sorkin gets into is that he writes the stuff himself. That leads to both uniquely well-executed vision and large blind spots, both of which can be solved by writing by committee. Pick your poison. Some other writing style may lead to less sexism, but I ask you: how many other fiction shows do we have to close from that even attempt to speak intelligently to politics, land mines, Islam, sexism, and the like. If you've found any, let me know. Otherwise Sorkin, whether it's SN, WW, S60, or NR, seems to be the only game in town.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-64400579193991498252012-06-08T23:30:30.206-05:002012-06-08T23:30:30.206-05:00Goodlegs seems to be the only one with his head on...Goodlegs seems to be the only one with his head on straight.Steppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14640401495931644236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-21445156900346801002011-09-19T16:24:04.657-05:002011-09-19T16:24:04.657-05:00Really interesting stuff here. As a late comer to ...Really interesting stuff here. As a late comer to "West Wing," but avid fan who has bathed in every episode, rinsed and repeated, I find the whole back-story so fascinating. I've never been a Laura Dern fan (just a personal thing that's lingered since "Jurassic Park" and " Wild at Heart"), but would grin and bear the episode because I loved the back story with Josh and the crazy blog people. I had no idea there was truth to the story and while it disappoints me to hear that Sorkin used the series as a platform to vent a personal vendetta, "Studio 60" was such an obvious retrospective on Sorkin from the early years through the debacle that ended his association with WW that I'm not surprised. I don't buy a lot of the comments about sexism, however. I think several of the episodes in Season 3 raised gender issues, but aside from CJ's embarrassing hypothetical challenge to WW II vets that I still have to fast forward through, I thought that "Women of Qumar" brought important arguments to light. Nancy's retort, "It's a big world, CJ. Everyone has guns and I'm doing the best that I can," followed by her somewhat defeatist posture as CJ pleaded after her, "They're beating the women, Nancy," was more of an explanation point on the complexity and sorrow of the entire situation. Juxtaposed against Josh's thinly veiled attempt to win over Amy Gardner who was magnificently played by Mary-Louise Parker and the "scary art" that adorned her offices appealed to me. Oh, and yes, I am a working mother of four children. Fortunately, I don't have much time to spend on these sites, but I found this one interesting enough to contribute to, so thanks to all for resurrecting a piece of history and contributing to the conversation. <br /><br />As a post-script, I heard A.Sorkin has written a script for an HBO series (harkening back to several references on "Studio 60" concerning that network's penchant for good shows in the face of other "illiterate programming" being offered on "the big 3." I couldn't agree more and look forward to more Sorkin kvetching in prime time.Cherish the "Mom"entshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06694903887197204763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-81606095034419437022011-09-19T16:20:08.489-05:002011-09-19T16:20:08.489-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Cherish the "Mom"entshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06694903887197204763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-24613572472256495192011-09-07T10:18:06.532-05:002011-09-07T10:18:06.532-05:00Very interesting! I have no expert, but I want hav...Very interesting! I have no expert, but I want have to know more and more, on your blog just interesting and useful information.extreme bondage sexhttp://www.extremebondagesex.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-37423215990379846042011-07-10T03:48:03.621-05:002011-07-10T03:48:03.621-05:00This explains so much. I read interviews with Sor...This explains so much. I read interviews with Sorkin after The Social Network came out where he expressed disdain for the internet but his reasons were left vague. Having never watched The West Wing or posted on TwoP, I don't have these points of reference to draw from but I did spend a couple of months trying to get through the fog of condescension on Studio 60 to see if there was a good show underneath it (there wasn't). The Social Network is the only thing he's done that I actually watched all the way through and enjoyed completely (The American President wasn't bad though) but his attitude doesn't seem to have changed much based on the opening scenes of that movie.kaduzynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-16804731906003434972010-12-23T14:31:36.768-05:002010-12-23T14:31:36.768-05:00This is a very fascinating blogpost, I'd not s...This is a very fascinating blogpost, I'd not seen it before! It's incredible how much time and effort you put in to a writer's posts on a forum (I don't mean that to sound like a swipe or a CJ-like-reaction, it's just not something I've seen before!) <br /><br />Absolutely fascinating read though, thanks!The Kid In The Front Rowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11284758898483746863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14913496.post-90809993318010814082010-11-29T15:33:00.562-05:002010-11-29T15:33:00.562-05:00Great post,
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